Hi Folks,
(Is it just me or would have "thehellblog" been a better name for this blog? If you want some slightly more edifying thoughts on the message of Jesus, try
the latest entry in my main blog where I think about Jesus's attitude to "success"...) Convinced that this hell issue is much more complicated that many traditionalists would have us believe (I've heard so many people say lately, "Jesus is very clear..."), I picked through the Gospel of Matthew for references and supposed references to Heaven, Hell, the afterlife, judgement etc. I want to do the other gospels and the epistles, Revelation and a small look at the Old Testament (there doesn't seem to be very much about "afterlife" in the OT, in actual fact).
I say "supposed references" because what I read on some sites suggests that Jesus wasn't actually referring to an "afterlife" at all. I've been wondering what the best translation to use would be - you can read Young's Literal Translation on Bible Gateway which is supposed to be a literal rendering of the Greek - with the advantage that it is an unbiased translation, not putting on what may be false meaning, but the disadvantage that the reader may not understand the usage of the Greek and may personally misinterpret. So I've decided to use both the YLT and the NIV.
This is what I found:
References/Supposed references to HellMatt 3:11-12 - spoken of Jesus:
11`I indeed do baptize you with water to reformation, but he who after me is coming is mightier than I, of whom I am not worthy to bear the sandals, he shall baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire,
12whose fan [is] in his hand, and he will thoroughly cleanse his floor, and will gather his wheat to the storehouse, but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable.' (YLT)
11 I baptise you with water for repentance. But after me will come one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not fit to carry. He will baptise you with the Holy Spirit and with fire.
12 His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will clear his threshing-floor, gathering his wheat into the barn and burning up the chaff with unquenchable fire. (NIV)
My NLT Bible renders "unquenchable" as "never-ending" but Samuel G. Dawson's article on
Jesus' teaching on Hell notes that, referring to "unquenchable fire", "In Ezk. 20.47-48, God promised such a national judgment on Judah". Obviously the fire, despite its unquenchability, was not neverending. My university CU, or at least a small group I attended, was still quite happy to make this one about Hell - two kinds of people - although I argued that it could be more about destroying the sin within one person, and bringing the "re-born" person into the Kingdom. I believe that in the OT God refers to a furnace that burns away impurities, although I admit that in this case, chaff isn't generally known to survive the burning process. (I might dare to suggest there's an argument for annihilationism here...)
Matt 5:20
22but I -- I say to you, that every one who is angry at his brother without cause, shall be in danger of the judgment, and whoever may say to his brother, Empty fellow! shall be in danger of the sanhedrim, and whoever may say, Rebel! shall be in danger of the gehenna of the fire. YLT
22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, 'Raca,' is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell. NIV
Apparently at least three words in the KJV (Gehenna, Sheol, Hades) were translated "Hell", although such words were also translated "grave" "death" etc. when it suited the translators. What's interesting here, is that if we take the traditional interpretation of Hell as the place of eternal punishment after death, we can apparently get there by calling our brother a fool, or perhaps an "empty fellow" (thankfully I've never called my brother that). The article linked to above and some other websites (see
MartinZender.com for example) seem to take Gehenna as literal, referring to the valley known as Gehenna outside Jerusalem, and contend that the judgement of Gehenna took place at the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70. I'm not sure this can be entirely true, however, since I learn that Jews believe in Gehenna as a place of afterlife punishment, although more as a purifying place than one of eternal torment, and it only lasts a year (see
Jew FAQ).
Even so, going to Hell for calling your brother a fool (or even a rebel) does seem somewhat outside the Christian mainstream. Any thoughts, dear readers?
Matt 7:13,14
13`Go ye in through the strait gate, because wide [is] the gate, and broad the way that is leading to the destruction, and many are those going in through it;
14how strait [is] the gate, and compressed the way that is leading to the life, and few are those finding it! YLT
13 Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.
14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it. NIV
This seems to be implying that lots of people go to Hell/destruction and few people go to Heaven/life. Charles Slagle has
written a piece on what he believes to be the correct interpretation of these verses. I do find these verses curious because of the use of "many" in other verses (eg. Hebrews 2:10) to describe what traditionalists believe to be the same group as the "few" in these verses. It also says that "few ever find it" and in Luke 13:24 Jesus even says that
`Be striving to go in through the straight gate, because many, I say to you, will seek to go in, and shall not be able' This almost seems to be using a "salvation by works" approach, that it would be possible to seek to enter, yet not be able to enter. I do have to wonder if we haven't been a bit simplistic in our interpretation of these verses.
Matt 8:11-12
11'and I say to you, that many from east and west shall come and recline (at meat) with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the reign of the heavens,
12but the sons of the reign shall be cast forth to the outer darkness -- there shall be the weeping and the gnashing of the teeth.' YLT
11 I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven.
12 But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. NIV
My NLT translates "sons of the reign" as "many Israelites - those for whom the Kingdom was prepared". Again, an "alternative" interpretation is that the "reign of the heavens" or the "kingdom of heaven" is the 1000 year kingdom spoken of in Revelation, and so the Jews who were cast out will not be permanently lost. Paul certainly does seem to believe that all Israel will be saved... as Romans 11:26 says
And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: The deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.Matt 11:22
21`Wo to thee, Chorazin! wo to thee, Bethsaida! because, if in Tyre and Sidon had been done the mighty works that were done in you, long ago in sackcloth and ashes they had reformed;
22but I say to you, to Tyre and Sidon it shall be more tolerable in a day of judgment than for you. YLT
21 Woe to you, Korazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! If the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.
22 But I tell you, it will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. NIV
This has been used to claim that people will suffer different levels of punishment in Hell, the kind where petty thieves get 500 degrees and stars of reality television get 1000 degrees. I'm not sure this is a particularly sound position, as Ezekiel 33:11 reads
Say to them, 'As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! Turn from your evil ways! Why will you die, O house of Israel?' (NIV) And I have to wonder that if God takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked why he, knowing that the miracles of Jesus would cause them to repent, he wouldn't have caused their repentance, if he knew they were to be lost eternally, albeit to a fate less painful than that of Chorazin and Bethsaida.
Matt 11:23-24
23`And thou, Capernaum, which unto the heaven wast exalted, unto hades shalt be brought down, because if in Sodom had been done the mighty works that were done in thee, it had remained unto this day;
24but I say to you, to the land of Sodom it shall be more tolerable in a day of judgment than to thee.' YLT
23 And you, Capernaum, will you be lifted up to the skies? No, you will go down to the depths. If the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Sodom, it would have remained to this day.
24 But I tell you that it will be more bearable for Sodom on the day of judgment than for you. NIV
This is something that actually seems to imply that the judgement will be in this life, as with the judgement of Sodom. I was surprised to discover that this isn't the only prophecy that looks good for Sodom - see also Ezekiel 16:53
'However, I will restore the fortunes of Sodom and her daughters and of Samaria and her daughters, and your fortunes along with them' (NIV).
Matt 13:37-43
37And he answering said to them, `He who is sowing the good seed is the Son of Man,
38and the field is the world, and the good seed, these are the sons of the reign, and the darnel are the sons of the evil one,
39and the enemy who sowed them is the devil, and the harvest is a full end of the age, and the reapers are messengers.
40`As, then, the darnel is gathered up, and is burned with fire, so shall it be in the full end of this age,
41the Son of Man shall send forth his messengers, and they shall gather up out of his kingdom all the stumbling-blocks, and those doing the unlawlessness,
42and shall cast them to the furnace of the fire; there shall be the weeping and the gnashing of the teeth.
43`Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the reign of their Father. He who is having ears to hear -- let him hear. YLT
I've heard "end of the age" interpreted as the crucifixion/resurrection/destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70 (The NIV also uses "end of the age"). These verses sent my annihiliationist mindset spinning when I saw both the fiery furnace and the weeping and gnashing of teeth together. It's also a bit distressing for the Arminian, since it seems to imply that the righteous and the unrighteous were made that way.
(On eternal pun-ishment and the fate of the wheat and the weeds... I note that wheat has ears...)
Matt 13:47-50 has a similar parable, with good and bad fish instead of wheat and weeds, and includes the fiery furnace, and weeping and gnashing of teeth. Something tells me I ought to do a study on the fiery furnace.
Matt 18:6-7
6and whoever may cause to stumble one of those little ones who are believing in me, it is better for him that a weighty millstone may be hanged upon his neck, and he may be sunk in the depth of the sea.
7`Wo to the world from the stumbling-blocks! for there is a necessity for the stumbling-blocks to come, but wo to that man through whom the stumbling-block doth come! YLT
6 But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
7 Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to sin! Such things must come, but woe to the man through whom they come! NIV
I believe I've read this in a piece on Hell... in any case, this is quite strange, since it seems to say that sin is necessary, or perhaps inevitable. A friend told me that the scariest church drama she'd ever seen involved a six year old child, of atheist parents, dying going to Hell. I wish I'd had the presence of mind to quote these verses since it seems more likely that the six year old's parents would go to Hell.
Matt 18:8-9
8`And if thy hand or thy foot doth cause thee to stumble, cut them off and cast from thee; it is good for thee to enter into the life lame or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet, to be cast to the fire the age-during.
9`And if thine eye doth cause thee to stumble, pluck it out and cast from thee; it is good for thee one-eyed to enter into the life, rather than having two eyes to be cast to the gehenna of the fire. YLT
8 If your hand or your foot causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life maimed or crippled than to have two hands or two feet and be thrown into eternal fire.
9 And if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell. NIV
I assume that the vast majority of Christians don't take this literally, or at least don't believe that their hands, feet or eyes have ever caused them to sin. In fact this is probably one of the few examples of a teaching on Hell that
could be taken literally, but is taken figuratively by the Church. The distinction between "age-during" and "eternal" is interesting. I've read a vast amount of articles recently that claim that "eternal" is a mistranslation of "aionian" which means "of the age" or "for an age" (see
Ken Eckerty's article for example). I've also heard counter-arguments that "aionian" is ambiguous in meaning, and is also used to mean "eternal" (see
CARM for example).
Matt 18:12-14
12`What think ye? if a man may have an hundred sheep, and there may go astray one of them, doth he not -- having left the ninety-nine, having gone on the mountains -- seek that which is gone astray?
13and if it may come to pass that he doth find it, verily I say to you, that he doth rejoice over it more than over the ninety-nine that have not gone astray;
14so it is not will in presence of your Father who is in the heavens, that one of these little ones may perish. YLT
12 What do you think? If a man owns a hundred sheep, and one of them wanders away, will he not leave the ninety-nine on the hills and go to look for the one that wandered off?
13 And if he finds it, I tell you the truth, he is happier about that one sheep than about the ninety-nine that did not wander off.
14 In the same way your Father in heaven is not willing that any of these little ones should be lost. NIV
There is an anti-free will slant on these verses, implying that God isn't willing they should perish, so therefore they won't.
Interesting.
Matt 18:34
34`And having been wroth, his lord delivered him to the inquisitors, till he might pay all that was owing to him; YLT
34 In anger his master turned him over to the jailers to be tortured, until he should pay back all he owed. NIV
Now this is even more curious... there is definite conscious punishment in this parable, and definite retribution - the unforgiving servant is himself not forgiven. But although the punishment is probably long and very painful, it isn't forever. I discussed this one with someone who believed in eternal torment and she actually faltered and said, "You have to understand the limitations of the parable." This I didn't buy, since why say "until" if there is no "until"? Why not just say he was turned over forever? Again, this makes me wonder if we haven't been far too simplistic on our interpretation of these verses.
Matt 21:41-43
41They say to him, `Evil men -- he will evilly destroy them, and the vineyard will give out to other husbandmen, who will give back to him the fruits in their seasons.'
42Jesus saith to them, `Did ye never read in the Writings, A stone that the builders disallowed, it became head of a corner; from the Lord hath this come to pass, and it is wonderful in our eyes.
43`Because of this I say to you, that the reign of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth its fruit; YLT
41 He will bring those wretches to a wretched end, they replied, and he will rent the vineyard to other tenants, who will give him his share of the crop at harvest time.
42 Jesus said to them, Have you never read in the Scriptures:
'The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone; the Lord has done this, and it is marvellous in our eyes'?
43Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit. NIV
This is another parable that can be taken in a "this life" context, and can use the destruction of the temple in AD 70, yet again! The phrase "kingdom of God" is interesting (I'm going to do a study on that, so patience please!) because it's used not only of heaven but of an unseen kingdom existing
within the disciples (see Luke 17:21 for example). So it may be interpreted that God is removing the priesthood from the traditional priests and from the teachers of the law, and granting it to the disciples of Jesus.
Matt 23:33-35
33`Serpents! brood of vipers! how may ye escape from the judgment of the gehenna?
34`Because of this, lo, I send to you prophets, and wise men, and scribes, and of them ye will kill and crucify, and of them ye will scourge in your synagogues, and will pursue from city to city;
35that on you may come all the righteous blood being poured out on the earth from the blood of Abel the righteous, unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the sanctuary and the altar:
36verily I say to you, all these things shall come upon this generation. YLT
33 You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?
34 Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town.
35 And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berakiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.
36 I tell you the truth, all this will come upon this generation. NIV
Again, note the distinction between "judgement of Gehenna" and "condemned to Hell". This is addressed to the Pharisees. I do have to wonder, given the different attitudes of Jews to Gehenna (see Jew FAQ link above) if this hasn't been misinterpreted by the NIV (and countless other) translators. I have also heard this explained in a "this life" ("preterist" is the correct term) context, saying that the judgement of Gehenna ended in AD 70 (hence "this generation"), especially as Jesus prophesies the destruction of the temple in Matt 24:2.
Matt 24:30-35
30and then shall appear the sign of the Son of Man in the heaven; and then shall all the tribes of the earth smite the breast, and they shall see the Son of Man coming upon the clouds of the heaven, with power and much glory;
31and he shall send his messengers with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his chosen from the four winds, from the ends of the heavens unto the ends thereof.
32`And from the fig-tree learn ye the simile: When already its branch may have become tender, and the leaves it may put forth, ye know that summer [is] nigh,
33so also ye, when ye may see all these, ye know that it is nigh -- at the doors.
34Verily I say to you, this generation may not pass away till all these may come to pass.
35The heaven and the earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. YLT
30At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory.
31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
32 Now learn this lesson from the fig-tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near.
33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it is near, right at the door.
34 I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.
35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away. NIV
I suppose this is more "end times" than Hell exactly but again, note the use of "this generation". I also see that "all the nations of the earth shall mourn", which would seem to be another one for the Hell camp. Why are they mourning? Is it because their sin is exposed? Again, use of chosen which suggests either predestination or perhaps salvation by works.
Matt 24:50-51
50the lord of that servant will arrive in a day when he doth not expect, and in an hour of which he doth not know,
51and will cut him off, and his portion with the hypocrites will appoint; there shall be the weeping and the gnashing of the teeth. YLT
50 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of.
51 He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. NIV
Jesus really, really doesn't like hypocrites. In fact, I believe he even coined the term hypocrite in its current usage (it previously referred to an actor on stage... he used it to describe religious pretenders). Again, weeping and gnashing of teeth. This verse suggests that Hell is for disciples who know the truth but don't abide by it - they don't "work out" their salvation.
Matthew 25:29-30
29for to every one having shall be given, and he shall have overabundance, and from him who is not having, even that which he hath shall be taken from him;
30and the unprofitable servant cast ye forth to the outer darkness; there shall be the weeping and the gnashing of the teeth. YLT
29 For everyone who has will be given more, and he will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken from him.
30 And throw that worthless servant outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.' NIV
Darkness and weeping and gnashing of teeth again! This is from the parable of the talents, commonly used by school teachers to guilt their students into working hard. Again, the judgement here is against the servant, the disciple, who did not work out his salvation.
Matt 25:41-46
41Then shall he say also to those on the left hand, Go ye from me, the cursed, to the fire, the age-during, that hath been prepared for the Devil and his messengers;
42for I did hunger, and ye gave me not to eat; I did thirst, and ye gave me not to drink;
43a stranger I was, and ye did not receive me; naked, and ye put not around me; infirm, and in prison, and ye did not look after me.
44`Then shall they answer, they also, saying, Lord, when did we see thee hungering, or thirsting, or a stranger, or naked, or infirm, or in prison, and we did not minister to thee?
45`Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say to you, Inasmuch as ye did [it] not to one of these, the least, ye did [it] not to me.
46And these shall go away to punishment age-during, but the righteous to life age-during.' YLT
41 Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink,
43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.'
44 They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?'
45 He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.'
46 Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life. NIV
Again, note difference between "age-during" and "eternal" (now you're thinking, but what's age-during life? Be patient, I want to do a study on eternal life too). I've frequently heard Hell apologists quote Matt 25:46 (NIV or KJV, of course) but refuse to take the rest of the passage even remotely literally. I was amused, for example that
The Shock of Your Life by Adrian Holloway which attempts to
scare educate young people about Heaven and Hell quoted the beginning of the story and the end but left out the middle. Why? Because it makes it sound awfully like salvation by works, that's why!
When I've raised this with Hell believers they usually take the position that either Jesus was talking to non-believers or he was talking to believers, but definitely not both, all together, indescriminately. This has always seemed a bit dodgy to me because Matt 25:32 says "all nations".
Matt 26:24
24the Son of Man doth indeed go, as it hath been written concerning him, but wo to that man through whom the Son of Man is delivered up! good it were for him if that man had not been born.' YLT
24 The Son of Man will go just as it is written about him. But woe to that man who betrays the Son of Man! It would be better for him if he had not been born. NIV
Though I've heard dodgy reinterpretations of this verse, I'm fairly certain that Jesus is saying "Woe to Judas, it would be better for Judas if Judas had never been born" not "woe to Judas, it would be better for Jesus if Judas had never been born" or any variant. Again, it's used as evidence for Hell, since one might argue that if Judas is going to be saved eventually then it wouldn't be better for Judas not to be born. Although again there's a certain amount of predestination here, since Jesus had to be betrayed in order to redeem humanity so one might argue that someone had to do the dirty work. Counter arguments suggest that Jesus was using a rhetorical device, similar to in Ecclesiastes where the author says,
3 A man may have a hundred children and live many years; yet no matter how long he lives, if he cannot enjoy his prosperity and does not receive proper burial, I say that a stillborn child is better off than he. (NIV)
Some final remarks on the Gospel according to Matthew and teaching therein on HellI think there really are grounds for reconsidering our teaching on Gehenna. Matthew seems to particularly emphasise the fate of the hypocrite and the fruitless servant, not of masses of people who never had the chance to believe. Obviously, a study of the other gospels and the epistles is required, as well as a study of the context used by Jesus when he taught these things. There is definitely a case for eternal punishment, but on my study I think it is a lot less clear-cut than people believe.
I suppose people may say to me, "Why question the origins of Hell when it is obvious that many people, most of whom were more learned that you, have already studied these things and taught us their conclusions?" From what I've read there seems to be a good deal more controversy over the issue than simply accepting Scripture or not accepting Scripture, and accepting the opinions of scholars just because they studied at the right university would not be particularly wise.
Also, consider this: I used to often eat unusual things for breakfast - cake, for example. I know that's not a traditional choice, but I told myself that tradition meant nothing. Then a lecturer told us how it is best to eat complex carbohydrates rather than simple sugars for breakfast, because the sugar-rush caused a great deal of insulin to be released, which would eventually be resisted by the body and could develop to Type II diabetes. Guess what? I stopped having cake for breakfast. On this occasion, tradition seemed very wise indeed. But the trouble with tradition is that it's not always wise. I read a recent study that suggested most weaning patterns for babies may actually be incorrect as to the wisest foods to feed to babies. Tradition seems wrong on this count. I don't trust tradition. I'd rather learn carefully reasoned arguments with sensible conclusions than simply "this is what we've always believed".
Part 2 will deal with "the Kingdom of Heaven" as referenced in Matthew.
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